signed by Rich Love on 12/4/02 Lloyd Campbell says Rich, your quote below of Ballard inspiration should be counterbalanced by the scare mongering nonsense the Ballards threw around regarding the Second Death. Rich Love answers:  Looking through the I AM books I find no mention of the Second Death.                             It seams pointless to ask but could you tell me were the Second Death Is mentioned in the I AM material. The Second Death IS pointed out in Revelations 2:11   He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Lloyd Campbell continues: In fact, more than one I AM elder scared the pants off me, Rich Love answers:  You had your pants scared off by hu-man gossip. Lloyd Campbell continues:              as did many of the Ballard writings, by stating that a Soul that came into this embodiment who was drawn to the I AM Activity, but decided to leave it, would enter the Second Death. Rich Love continues:  Mr. Campbell you have gotten that idea from some Hu-man                                   IT IS NOT IN THE I AM TEACHINGS! Lloyd Campbell continues            Maybe you would like to put your slant on how the concept of the Second Death can be reconciled with Grace as described in the Bible. Rich Love continues:                     From the research that I have done I would explain it this way. Jesus                                      says  Mat 24:35, Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall not pass away. Earth is everything physical.  Heaven is the realm of the Soul.  The Word is the Causal or I AM, Also referred to by Paul as the Third Heaven in 2 Cor.12:2 2 Peter 3   9      The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10      But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 1 Zech 14:7, Matt 24:36, Acts 1:7, 1st Thess 5:2 11      Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy aconversation and godliness, 12      Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13      Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for 1new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. We are in the last days of this Day of Creation, spot or blemish can not go into the Causal for it is eternal Perfection Jesus said in my father’s house there are many mansions. If you go to the Saint Germain Foundation website and click on Saint Germain you will read about the many mansions. God provides a place that we fit ourselves for and continues to provide Love. The last enemy shall be overcome. Lloyd Campbell continues: You might then add to your Ballard quote below, a bunch of addendums explaining why grace is not available to all, but rather, the Second Death replaces it. Rich Love continues:  AGAIN, SHOW ME WHERE YOU GET THIS IT IS NOT IN THE I AM MATERIAL.  Look closely at the quote below what you are claming can not fit into this concept. "When this occurs, man will begin to remember that which he once was, and may become again—whensoever he chooses to look once more at the Great, Cosmic, Blueprint-of Himself." Lloyd Campbell continues: And to answer your mindless question about where the Ballards say one may only activate God's Grace via daily use of the Violet Flame, why don't you check your First Fundamental booklet. That is if you have one. I still doubt if you are a card carrying member of the I AM, and also doubt that you have been to a full set of fundamentals in the last 3 years. Otherwise, you would not have been silly enough to embark on the course of argument you have. You see, your only company is Christian D. All other I AM students are so full of doubt or see that what I say actually carries some truth. It is only you Rich who doesn't get it. Rich Love continues: You hurl insults out freely, forgetting that you are condemning yourself with your own words.  You are full of what you call me and are living on irrational human gossip. Prove what you say by solid evidence not insults and gossip. Sincerely Rich Love

signed by Suva Kanta Mohanty on // Woul you be kind enough to send me the e-mail address of her holiness of Daya Mata of Yogananda Society? ed. May I suggest you go to this address and send a prayer request. http://www.yogananda-srf.org/index.html God Blessings Christian

signed by Christian Kinnard on 12/2/02 I have set up a newsgroup at Yahoo which might be more functional then the guestbook. I will archive the guestbook in the new year for all to see, and would encourage everyone to nosey on over to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iamactivityexposed

signed by Lloyd Campbell on // Rich, your quote below of Ballard inspiration should be counterbalanced by the scare mongering nonsense the Ballards threw around regarding the Second Death. In fact, more than one I AM elder scared the pants off me, as did many of the Ballard writings, by stating that a Soul that came into this embodiment who was drawn to the I AM Activity, but decided to leave it, would enter the Second Death. Maybe you would like to put your slant on how the concept of the Second Death can be reconciled with Grace as described in the Bible. You might then add to your Ballard quote below, a bunch of addendums explaining why grace is not available to all, but rather, the Second Death replaces it. "When this occurs, man will begin to remember that which he once was, and may become again—whensoever he chooses to look once more at the Great, Cosmic, Blueprint-of Himself." And to answer your mindless question about where the Ballards say one may only activate God's Grace via daily use of the Violet Flame, why don't you check your First Fundamental booklet. That is if you have one. I still doubt if you are a card carrying member of the I AM, and also doubt that you have been to a full set of fundamentals in the last 3 years. Otherwise, you would not have been silly enough to embark on the course of argument you have. You see, your only company is Christian D. All other I AM students are so full of doubt or see that what I say actually carries some truth. It is only you Rich who doesn't get it. ed. Thankyou Lloyd

signed by Rich Love on 12/1/02 Mr. Campbell: You are displaying a perfect example of what I have pointed out  to you in my post on 11/27/02 about your criticism and  judgment of others being that very fault in you. You are criticizing me for what you have not done. I have asked you for specific proof of your claims since my post of 11/28/02 You have never provided any because there isn’t any. All you know is second hand gossip about the I AM Teachings and very little about the Bible. You continue to hide that fact from all who read these posts Then you come up with your next ridiculous statement that follows!   signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/29/02 I have asked you thrice to quote something equally inspiring to the Bible that flowed from the Ballard mouths, and you persist in desisting. Perhaps I missed something, where exactly did you ask thrice or even once? This is from Unveiled Mysteries.  Page 86 All mankind’s limitation is the result of the individual’s own misuse of the God-attribute of free will.   He compels himself to live within his own creations until, by the direct volition of the outer activity of his mind, he again consciously looks back to his Royal beginning—God, The Great Source of All.  When this occurs, man will begin to remember that which he once was, and may become again—whensoever he chooses to look once more at the Great, Cosmic, Blueprint-of Himself.

signed by Rich Love on 12/1/02 Eve: The truth is that the I AM Activity is like a laundromat cleaning up mankind’s lower-nature. Most people can only take so much cleansing. The I AM Activities viewpoint on marriage, is the same as the Apostle Paul’s opinion expressed in 1 Corinthians 7. The entire chapter focuses on Marriage specifically verses 8 and 9. 7:8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.   [Paul was not married] 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. I became an I AM student in 1970 and found the I AM students to have a deeper understanding of truth but are no different than anyone else. Jenny’s advice for you and your partner to sit down and write down very clearly what your beliefs are is excellent.  Right timing and atmosphere are also important. Sincerely Rich Love

signed by Eve on 12/1/02 Thank you, Jenny, for your prompt response and advice.  I will certainly take it.  I realize there is much that we need to discuss. I don't want to make him feel as if he has to defend his beliefs to me.  I know he has doubts himself, and that he will only reveal them to me in trust.  Have you known of people who were raised in The Activity and who, after the age of 35, decided to leave?  Are there success stories?  What am I in for and what am I up against? ed. Eve, re students leaving after the age of 35, yes we know many. There are several trends we have noted amongst students. THe first is its appeal to those in their teens and 20s. These people last 18mths-7 years. They are usually beautiful people sincerely seeking a richer Spiritual understanding than the staid offerings of most conventional religion. They come into the Activity all full of beans and try to the best of their ability to adhere to the multitude of disciplines recommended by the Ballards. However, the Ballard instruction over the years has become an absolute dog's breakfast of token bits and pieces of what one has to do to please God. After serveral years trying to sort all this stuff out, and in the absence of successful elders, most young ones painfully come to realize that, although much of the advice in the I AM is constructive, overall, it doesn't add up. To our minds, this is because the Ballards borrowed moral constructs from several Eastern and Western religions, but then threw a veil of confusion over the whole affair by adding their own brand of paranoia and authoritarianism into its delivery. We believe that one has to be careful when leaving the I AM, not to rebel against much of the good moral advice within it. This advice should not be considered to be solely Ballard instruction. It has filtered down through metaphysical Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, and the Bon religion of Tibet. In relation to students who have been in the Activity since birth, if these do not have a crisis in their teens, they do tend to oscillate in and out of the teachings for the rest of their lives. They do so because they never get a good chance to discuss their feelings and confusion with ex I AMers. This is one of the reasons Christian and I established this site. The I AM Activity is not well endowed with those who understand the ambiguities and confusion caused by the teachings. Thus those who become confused are left to fend for themselves with attitudes of aloof indifference by elders within the movement. Christian and myself were both over 35 when we left. Several tactics helped us make the step, not only without but within (which is the most difficult): - we focused on the love that exists in the world outside the I AM. We then examined the mass of Ballard material which warns students from mixing in the world. For students living away from the several large centres of students, the Ballard advice condemns students to a lonely existence. This is why the large I AM meetings become so popular. THey are sources of social contact in a world students are taught to be weary of. - We looked for evidence of the Violet Flame and other I AM application bringing about the certain results the Ballards promised. After years of searching, we sadly realized there was no evidence years of decrees gave students the advantages in life that the Ballards said they would. Sure, I Am students roll along here and make statements about how the I AM works for them. However, if you step back and look at what they are saying, it is usually that they have attained a better job or a more money. However, this is not what the Ballards promised from obedience and decrees. THe miracles we talk about on the site of health, wealth, and happiness, are not realized even by the most avid of students. We of course recognise there are several wealthy I AM students, however, with one or two exceptions, these have inherited wealth, or laid the foundation for that wealth before entering the I AM. - We travelled broadly and visited many I AM sanctuaries looking for the quintessential successful I AM student. Guess what? we didn't find one. The I AM elders like to spread intrigue that there is always a student somewhere a long way away who has attained unusual youth and wealth. In this manner, other students live in hope that the decrees will work for them too. Well, it is all baloney. So, Eve, my final words for you are to do some serious self examination and work out what your values in life are. Christian and I and many others believe the reason there is so much divorce and disharmony in relationships is because individuals do not develop a strong clear code of ethics and define the meaning of life for themselves. This leads to people being attracted to each other not on the basis of similar values, but due to physical attraction, the possibility of financial security, or some other material concern. When one enters a relationship without consideration of the compatibiilty of each other's deeper values, then at the first sign of life challenge, the marriage will strain. Keep this in mind Eve. One day the values of your partner will hit you in the face. Your love for him will not be enough of itself to hold the two of you together. Ultimately, you will have to be a force and light that can guide your partner to a clearer state of mind than where he seems to be at the moment. Jenny Lincoln

signed by Eve on 11/30/02 Former I-Am'ers and friends of this site, I ask for your advice.  I am new to "The Activity" having fallen in love with a man who was raised in it for 30 years of his life. I have read the first book and am reading the second in order to try and understand him.  It all leaves me feeling very, very sad.   How can I tell him I see his holy text as fictitious at best and dispicable at worst?  Clearly this is a cult with seriously materialistic and racist views. It is against creativity and independent thought.  It believes in the supremecy of Man over Nature, is ageist and nonloving.  It's emphasis on physical beauty and material wealth being equated with Godliness makes me want to puke.  Its description of the horrors that result from sexual pleasure is hypocritical at best. Be beautiful, youthful, powerful and enjoy the sensual riches the world has to offer, but be celibate? Should I run for the hills or is there hope that love might give him the strength he needs to reevaluate his beliefs and his life?   p.s. he is not celibate, he wears jeans and has a very wonderful and supportive group of friends outside The Activity. ed. Hi Eve, The scenario you are talking about is very very common. We have made reference to the large number of marital breakdowns we have encountered when one partner is an I AMer and the other isn't. I think if you have not done so already, you need to sit down very matter of factly and talk about what you expect in a relationship, then have your I AM partner do the same. It sounds to me like sex is something important to you. If so, it is our experience that your partner will eventually expect you to moderate the importance of sex in your life. When he becomes tired or preoccupied, the dual standards your partner has in relation to sex will become an issue. He may withdraw from it altogether, as this is what the teachings espouse. Until he does practice celibacy, he is going to have a torn conscience, as the Ballard writings are full of Draconian guilt laden rubbish about wasting one's energy in sex. Their belief is that celibacy brings rewards of energy and supply otherwise not attainable. We can say with absolute certainty that this is a lie. There are I AM students who strived to follow this advice word for word and life just isn't that way. If God was going to reward some and not others on the basis of what the Ballards said, then I AM students would truly be outstanding Souls. But they are not. They get sick, they get obese, they suffer financial hardships, they experience discord, just like the rest of us. We firmly believe that following the panoply of recommendations, decrees, rituals set out by the Ballards offers no advantage over other more conventional religion. To use celibacy as a negotiation strategy to get more from God is naive and psychologically destructive. My advice is for you and your partner to sit down and write down very clearly what your beliefs are regarding sex, and what sort of sex life you both want. Jenny Lincoln

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/30/02 Rich You are a sly slippery one, I shall give you that. I am now convinced you are not a 100% I AM student at all. You ignore at all costs unveiling the level of your devotion to the Ballards. Further, you now talk of the Bible as the greatest book ever written. Well, that seals it for me. In saying that, you have just disgraced the Ballards better than I ever could hope to. If the Bible is the greatest book, then why bother with the acres of dictations that flowed from the Ballard's mouths? I have asked you thrice to quote something equally inspiring to the Bible that flowed from the Ballard mouths, and you persist in desisting. Let's face it Rich, you are not a hard core I AMer at all. And have just disgraced the Ballards by claiming the old dispensation is a better source of wisdom than the current dispensation wisdom of the Ballards.......brouhahahhahahhaa... Go away Rich and make some money spreading some love.

signed by Rich Love on 11/30/02 Mr. Campbell You stated that, The I AM Activity does not use the Bible in their teachings. That the Ballards said the Bible did not represent the truth anymore.  I gave you proof that you are wrong. Read my post of 11/28/02 notice that Mr. Ballard is listening to Saint Germain who is quoting John 14:12.  It is because of the I AM Activity that I read the Bible.  To me the Bible is the greatest book ever written and is inspired by the I AM That I AM. I have asked you many times for specific proof of where I can find the statements that you claim are the teachings of the I AM Activity.  All you come back with are boasting, sarcasm and disrespect. If one can’t find the treasure is it the fault of the treasure, or the lack of skill of the hunter. There is a treasure if you can’t find it, sharpen your skill. Peace Be Unto You Rich Love

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/29/02 OK Rich, if I can quote the Ballards, not once but three times, saying the daily use of the Violet Flame is absolutely the only way to have God's grace act in one's world to keep one's negative karma from expressing, then will you finally lay down your flea bitten dog argument? I still cannot believe you are a 100% I AMer. Maybe you can volunteer how long you have been in the I AM, how often you go to meetings, which Sanctuary you are a member of, when you last did fundamentals, the last Senior Conlave you went to, whether you ever married or instead followed the Ballard advice to stay single in this embodiment.

signed by Rich Love on 11/29/02 Mr. Campbell You sound like an autoresponder, with no ability to have a rational response. It could be possible that my last post was more than you could deal with. Let's take each point, one at a time. First:  Who is a Christian? Rich, you find me one Christian who agrees that: RL’s response: Believing in Christ doesn’t make you a Christian. Doing the will of the Father makes you a Christian. - God's Grace is only granted by repetitive decrees invoking the Violet Flame RL’s resp:, Where in the I AM teachings Is this stated? Please be specific. This sounds like more hu-man gossip.

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/29/02 OK I finally get it Rich. You are not a 100% I AM student at all. You are just a disgruntled Christian. You have not proved your knowledge of the Ballard rhetoric yet, only your ability to copy and paste phrases from the Bible. Whether this makes you a Christian or a 100% I Am'er is dubious indeed. Whether you worship Daddy, Mamma, Don, Rex, Nada, Pearl, David, Daniel Rayborn, Rose of Light, El Moyra, Sanat Kumara, Victory, the faceless Elohim etc etc etc remains to be proven. Seems to me you are sticking with the sure thing and staying with Jesus. That Ballard panoply is pretty hard to get your head around and decree to daily huh Rich?

signed by Rich Love on 11/29/02 signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/28/02 Rich, you find me one Christian who agrees that:RL’s response: Believing inChrist doesn’t make you a Christian.        Doing the will of the Father makes you a Christian.- God's Grace is only granted by repetitive decrees invoking the Violet        FlameRL’s resp:, Where in the I AM teachings Is this stated? Please be      specific. This sounds like more hu-man gossip.                            -anyone else other than Jesus can grant GraceRL’s resp: Grace is the Creators gift of Unconditional Love to all Creation.  Jesus was his name on earth.  When he ascended to the right hand of the Father Creator he became and is the I AM That I AM,the I AM perfection in all creation. The Bride of Christ takes the name of the Bridegroom at the Marriage of the Lamb and that name is I AM.Be ye, therefore, perfect, even as your Father, who is in heaven, is perfect.  Mat. 5:48   By doing the will of the I AM Father, results in,Rev. 3:12Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.Notice the words he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God- That there is a polytheism of God Masters out therRL’s resp: 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 7:14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed. - reincarnation and karma are factRL’s resp:  Read closely the words in Rev. 3:12 he shall go no more out  The Bible has many references to reincarnation, go no more out, is one example.Mat.17:11 to 13  Jesus plainly tells his disciples that John the Baptist is the return of the Prophet Elijah, promised in Malachi 4:5There are many more references that you can find if you look.The church of the present world has less enlightenment now than in the time of Christ.  In fact the Pharisees and Sadducees disagreed about what they called the resurrection or reincarnation.Karma is a Sanskrit word meaning cause and effect.You can find the meaning in Galatians 6:7to 9Can you be more specific about where this information is that you keep quoting?  Where is the proof of your accusations?  All we get from you are insults and half-witted remarks. and I shall eat my hat. You seem to be occupying this foggy space between Christianity and Ballardism. As I said before, you are doing the Ballards a great dis-service by reverting back to Bible study, and ignoring their much superior and timely information, information that you believe Jesus's Disciples couldn't understand.

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/28/02 Rich, you find me one Christian who agrees that: - God's Grace is only granted by repetitive decrees invoking the Violet Flame -anyone else other than Jesus can grant Grace - that there is a polytheism of God Masters out there. - reincarnation and karma are fact. and I shall eat my hat. You seem to be occupying this foggy space between Christianity and Ballardism. As I said before, you are doing the Ballards a great dis-service by reverting back to Bible study, and ignoring their much superior and timely information, information that you believe Jesus's Disciples couldn't understand.

signed by Rich Love on 11/28/02 Mr. Lloyd Campbell The quote in the last post from me is from K.J.V. John, 14:12. Also, read Paul's excellent Epistle to the Philippians. A true Christian Experience. As Always Rich Love

signed by Rich Love on 11/28/02 Mr. Lloyd Campbell It looks like you have gotten your information from someplace other than the source. Why do you have so much error and supposition in what you write? In your present condition you are not qualified to give out any accurate straight information on the I Am Activity the Ballard’s or the Bible. This passage is from Unveiled Mysteries, I believe on page 134, Saint German speaking to Guy Ballard. When Jesus said 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall ye do; because I go unto my Father. he knew whereof he spoke, continued Saint Germain. He came forth to reveal the Conscious Dominion and Mastery that is possible for every human being to attain and express, while still here on earth.  He showed the Dominion of The Ascended Master, and proved to mankind that it is possible for everyone to call forth his God Self, that can consciously control all things human. Mr. Campbell, where are you getting your information? I would suggest you read Mathew Chapters 12 and 13 for a good foundation. Sincerely Rich Love

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/28/02 Rich, you continue to quote the Bible. The I AM Activity does not use the Bible in their teachings. The Ballards said the Bible did not represent the truth anymore because the one and only Guy and Edna, your Beloved Daddy and Mamma, heralded in a new age where St Germain was now the head honcho and Jesus takes a back seat. If you persist in quoting the Bible, then you are defaming the Ballards and St Germain. As I said, if you want to support the Ballards, start quoting them.

signed by Rich Love on 11/28/02 This is a picture of how the universe has always worked, from the infinite to the finite. http://www.sbig.com/sbwhtmls/gallery.htm Love holds it all together!!! Do the loving thing. Rich Love

signed by Rich Love on 11/28/02 This is from the King James Version; you would do well to heed the words. 52:7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Why do you remove helpful information from this site but keep the trash? Try to do more good with the $12.00 a month. Sincerely Rich Love

signed by Rich Love on 11/27/02 Rich, the more you say, the more you contradict yourself. You are deceived into thinking that you are addressing me, You are addressing your reality. In other words you are writing to yourself. Sincerely Rich Love

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/27/02 Rich, the more you say, the more you contradict yourself. You first argue man is fallible, but then you say our lives revolve around the Christ principle, and imply we should all expect to do what Jesus did. Then you take the point to its logical extreme and criticize Christians for not walking on water. Here, the implication is I AM students do walk on water, as well as do all other things Jesus did. You obviously feel Christians who love Jesus and not St Germain are inferior, and unable to achieve in life, what I AM students achieve. Rich, this just doesn't represent reality. As we state, there are no I AM students out there performing miracles and running the government the way the Ballards said they would. You also state deception is a very human state. You might ask yourself why the Ballards never attained any of the Miracles they said we could all achieve. To a fair minded person, it would seem the Ballards were deceptive in not practising what they preached. You then drag out another quote from the Bible (the book the I AM don't read in meetings). Remember Rich, according to your logic, the Ballards came to give us all the secrets Jesus said the Disciples wouldn't uderstand. Instead of quoting from the anachronistic Bible, why don't you start quoting the Ballards' superior new dispensation wisdom? Listen Rich, I have heard the best you can say, and find that your I AM faith blinds your reason. I hope one day you will see through the veil of delusion spun by the Ballards.

signed by Andrew on // Why do you insist on tring to turn every body that loves ther presens aginst ther belefs. As a good human being cant you encurage us if we take the time to writ to you. Some things you cant explain, not even with sience and resech. As beloved Ann and Jery once sayd your beleve cant be foced not even by Moma amd Dady. So plese let us be. Thank you ed. Andrew, why are you afraid of hearing the truth? Don't you want to know the truth about the Ballards? Why do you feel so strongly about hiding the real lives of the Ballards? As for what motivates Jenny and myself to host this site, if that is not obvious from what is written in the site, then I think your belief blinds you to seeing thngs as others do. Instead of asking why we criticize the I AM, you should ask yourself why the Ballards critize Jews, Blacks, and Christians.

signed by Rich Love on 11/27/02 I should also mention that deception is also a very human trait. Do you have any criticism or condemnation about the I AM Come Pageant? Jesus said, judge not that you be not judged.  To put it another way the things that you judge about others are the faults in you. In other words you would be better off looking in a mirror at yourself and honestly complaining to yourself about the faults that you can admit to yourself that you have. That would be a whole lot better than paying $12.00 a month to keep a website up that only criticizes, complains and is full of inaccurate information that deceives people into thinking that you know what you are talking about.   I know from my own experience that you do not. By the way thanks for spending the $12.00. All things work together for GOOD!! Rich

signed by Rich Love on 11/27/02 Mr. Lloyd Campbell     I did not single out Guy, Edna or Don Ballard, as you erroneously claim. I am speaking about everyone in physical embodiment. According to George Van Tassel the ancient meaning of Hue is tiger, so Tiger man or human.   An animal class, whose life depends on hunts and kills. Mankind is a higher class, whose life revolves around the Christ Principle, LOVE.  Christ in you, the hope of glory!!! Jesus, during his time on earth, told his disciples that there are truths that they could not understand. This is still true.  Criticizing and complaining about what we cannot understand are signs of immaturity. Jesus said, these things that I do you shall do also, and greater things shall you do. Why not offer the $10,000.00 to any Christian who can walk on water. Here is a pearl of wisdom. Worship Increases Love Love Increases Power Power Increases Fruit Again In All Sincerity Rich Love

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/26/02 I am glad you agree the Ballards are fallible human beings Rich. But don't believe you quite have a grip on things here. The Ballards didn't think themselves fallible when dictating from the pulpit or otherwise. They told everyone their words were the infallible words of Perfect God Beings who never make mistakes. Further, the Ballards and their son Don were the only ones that could speak for God. Everyone else was fraudulent according to the Ballards, and that included Paramahansa Yogananda, Sri Daya Mata, Sri Yukteswar, and Babaji. You really need to read up on the Ballards Rich. By your comments, i get the impression you just like the sound of their message, and don't really know much about the real life Ballards or life in the I AM Activity.

signed by Rich Love on 11/26/02 So, the purpose of this site is to senselessly waste time ridiculing fallible human beings. The story of casting pearls before swine, comes to mind in responding to the Ignorance! Spiritual sight is very real.  A book by Paramahansa Yogananda titled Autobiography of a Yogi will help you all to know of this .If you are serious about finding truth, highly recommended. Prayers or decrees are useless if there is no belief that they are being heard. If you would like a little better picture of how you fit into the picture think about this!!! http://www.sbig.com/sbwhtmls/gallery.htm. Sincerely Rich Love

signed by Luc on 11/25/02 You know, reading through these posts and the web site, I find it SO interesting that the Ballards' own son, who it was confirmed had the same supposed access to the ASCENDED MASTERS (!!), later QUIT the Activity!  I never knew that. I mean, WHO in their RIGHT MIND would DO such a thing if they were in such a priviledged position?  It would be utterly impossible.  This, above all, demonstrates the falsehood behind the Ballards' claims. As a wise man once said, "Religion is the opium of the masses."  Amen. Thanks, all.

signed by Dave on 11/25/02 Rich Love (aka Christian D.), Let's take a look at the verse that you cited. Read a liitle bit prior to it, verse 7 says: ...But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking... So Jesus said don't use vain repetitions. Kinda sounds like decreeing to me, no? Don't forget the possibly most ego-centric words ever uttered by your beloved Ballards: '...the achievement since the Messengers arrived in Chicago has been the most stupendous thing ever on this earth! Do not think this sounds sacrilegious; but it is so much greater as the Beloved Ascended Master Jesus has said that at any one point of His Activity that He stands many times in absolute quiet pouring forth His Radiance to the Earth and to Saint Germain for this gigantic Achievement...' Doesn't get any lamer than that. Two con artists telling people that they are the most important thing to ever happen on this earth! A couple of greedy wannabe psychics living in a bungalow in Chicago. Far cry from the glory days in past lives as kings & queens! Don't anyone ever forget. Saint Germain said that these 3 messengers were the only ones who could bring this light forth. Donald Ballard was taking dictations from the visible Ascended Masters. What did he do later on in life? He quit the I AM after the money machine died down and he opened up a machine shop in Santa Fe. Those Mighty Masters must have really made an impact on his life! LOL As hard as it is, you need to see it for what it is. It was a movement that came out of an age where mediums and psychics ruled the day. Everyone and their brother were into this spiritual stuff. These two conned many people with their money making book tours. They sold anything and everything to separate their followers from their money. After Con-Guy BAllard died and didn't ascend 1/2 the movement quit. What did the queen scammer do? She sold records of Guy and his picture saying that they were blessed with his energy. They ripped off anyone they could. They both dide old, wrinkled and with the gray hair that they constantly said the decrees would restore back to the original color. What's worse is when you go into a temple or open any book, you see huge photos of these two con-artists. Once more I AMers actually decree to them. They worship two lower middle-class people from Chicago.

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/25/02 Oh dear me, Rich, you have no idea what you are talking about. The Ballards aren't into all that old dispensation stuff brought abouot by Jesus 2000 years ago. Don't you get it? This is my beef with the Ballards. They said Jesus didn't give the complete truth, and the Ballards had come along to give it. So, all this stuff about the body being full of light when the eye is single is a furfy according to the Ballards. The Ballards state that the only way to get and hold any light in your body is to use the  Violet Flame, use the Violet Flame, use the Violet Flame, and don;t you dare stop or all the nasties in the world will get ya...........pretty scarey stuff huh? So, get on the  band wagon Rich Love, and wake up to the fact that the Ballards came to tell us that God's Grace wasn't valid unless its colour was Violet, and that it was decreed forth in group meetings three times a week. Any less would be a fruitless task. You see, Rich, the Ballards felt Jesus provided less than the complete truth, and felt it was their role to come and pick up where Jesus left off. So, they are saying that before 1934, no human  had the means to attain God's grace in its fullness. So Rich, don't start quoting the Bible when you are trying to support the Ballards. The Bible is never read in I AM Meetings. And the Ballards thought Jesus didn't know it all anyways. Which is preetty amazing, cos the Ballards never healed anyone theway Jesus did. Even among Ballard students there are no myths  about Ballard healings. So how can we possibly elevate the Ballards above the status attained by Jesus and othere truly greeat teachers. Lloyd

signed by Rich Love on 11/25/02 Lloyd Campbell You would do well to read and heed Mat.6:22. The light of the body is the eye; if, therefore, thine eye be single,thy whole body shall be full of light. Jesus is making reference to spiritual sight,or what is called the third eye. This spiritual sight can be opened with determination and desire. Once the inner sight is open you would have all the proof you need because you would see and know it for yourself and you would know how wrong you are about the light of God that never never never fails! Sinerely Rich Love

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/23/02 Wow, so now Christian D. has a fellow blind faither who requires no proof that the Violet Flame heals all and grants unusual youth. Rereading over CHristian D's earlier posting reminded me of some of the Ballards' more bizarre world. Christian D., your Mamma Ballard didn't want people wearing jeans because jeans were invented by a guy called Levi, and he was a Jew. It was no secret that dear Edna blamed the Jews for most of the world's problems. You see, she got a lot of this from William Pelley's Silver Shirt movement which Edna's supporters would do well do read up on. So once again, we have proof that the Ballards were hate mongerers. They encouraged discrimination against Blacks and Jews. THere is no telling what would have become of the USA if Guy had got his way and had I AM students governing the country. But anyway, I accept that I AMers as young and naive as CHristian D. have no inkling of the truth behind the founders of their life's faith. But I think it reprehensible that Mr. D. considering himself an intelligent man, wilfully chooses to devote his life to something he is not prepared to investigate with a rational mind. Lloyd

signed by Rich Love on 11/23/02 Thank you Christian N. D. Thank you for the time that you have taken to so excellently express your deep thoughts and feelings about such an important subject to all who visit here! With your words you have made this site a blessing to those who can accept and believe the truth.   I am referring to your posting on 11/21/02 Sincerely Rich Love

signed by Normand Dionne on 11/23/02      I wish to completely retract the message that I left on 2002/11/12 to the effect that I was glad that none has been able to claim the $10k and that I had not attained anything worthy of mention by using decrees. Actually it is quite sad.      That being said, I do not think that any 90 year old who has attained the ability to outpicture the body of a 20 year old, would actually answer your offer.      I think that such a being would be far beyond the need of money. God bless y'all. N.D. ed. Hello Normand. Our problem with the Ballards is that they bait a lot of people by appealing to people's desire to overcome the unfortunate limitations of being in a human body. History bears out that this is a powerful drive in the human race. The Ballard were emphatic in everything they said being absolutely true. However, to date, not one person has been known, not only to maintain some sense of youthfulness to 90, but not even to 40 years of age. Furthermore, yes, we agree a youthful 90 old wouldn't need $10,000. However, one would expect relatives or friends to know they had retained exceptional health, even at the age of 40. However, no one in the I AM knows of anyone attaining this goal, so vehmently promised by the Ballards. And the ballards didn't attain it themselves, neither did their son. So, if we are all to keep our heads screwed on and feet on the ground, what are we to make of these ballard claims that no one wants to validate, but everyone wants to believe in because they don't want to get old and die? I say the Ballards were snake oil merchants, and out of the desperation borne of their poverty, they resorted to trying to hoodwink the gullible. Christian Kinnard

signed by Lloyd Campbell on 11/22/02 I was in the I AM Activity for over a decade in the 70s, and knew Christian Kinnard and Jenny Lincoln in those days. They are fine people and I support everything they say on this site. We were all quite diligent in following the recommendations/rules created by the Ballards. Why wouldn't we? we believed that simple obedience would deliver us good health, wealth, and happiness, and we would simultaneously save the planet. It all seems too good to be neat when I look back. As things turned out, the majority of students I met in the 70s dropped out after spending 2-15 years in the Activity. I just want to reiterate some of the themes supporters of the Ballards might volunteer to defend in this public arena. 1. Blacks were not allowed into the main sanctuaries until the mid 80s when the Activity faced the threat of losing their tax exemption status. Why so? 2. The Ballards taught that the highest obedience to the Masters was attained by not marrying. They did not follow this advice, nor did their son, who was no less than an accredited messenger. And despite being so gifted and full of light, he married a woman who later walked out on him. Are these people seriously putting themselves up as role models? 3. As Christian Kinnard and Jenny have stated over and over, the Ballards never attained what they tried to sell everyone on. When you stand back and have a good hard honest look at what the Ballards did, it is difficult indeed to justify that they were telling the truth. Regards Lloyd

signed by Luc on 11/21/02 Christian; Thanks for reply.  You make some erroneous points, though.  Cut me some slack, man!  Sure, I said "I Am movement" instead of activity -- that was just a mistake.  I was going to the temple over 12 years ago, when I was quite young!  And if you don't consider decreeing 1-3 hours a day as being "fairly involved", then you must be totally hardcore.  So no, I'm not a "third party" researcher.  And your comments that everybody is free to come and go with the Activity as they please is correct -- but you have to remember in my case, I was young, and because of parental and peer pressures (from other members) my choice was not so free.  But that's not the Activity's fault, you're right. Ah yes, the Great Gamble.  Again, you're right.  Science cannot disprove or prove God, either way.  Religion lies in the realm of faith, and should be left at that.  The only true position a scientist can take is that of agnosticism.  Those that do believe, choose to believe simply because it gives them comfort.  And that's fine.  But what you say about the person who dies and gets to the other side and wow there IS a god and He won't be happy that you didn't believe, well I don't buy that.  If there is a god, he/she/it gave us a brain, and meant for us to use it.  So long as you have clear and definite reasons for the path you choose, no being will ever be able to fault you for it.  In fact God would probably congratulate the person for having had the strength and will to USE that brain to think for himself, as that is what it is meant for!  That is what has caused all the modern  technological advances we see around us today (for better or worse), which I'm sure the "I AM" Activity condones (judging from their intense admiration of the technical achievements of "Atlantis" and "Lemuria").  So you can't celebrate rational thinking on one hand and denigrate it on the other.  To paraphrase Einstein, it's the most precious thing we as humans have.   The flip side to the Gamble scenario, is that what if you spent your entire life praying to some voodoo idol that only exists in your mind? It's happened millions of times, to millions of people.  Think of all the lost time and energy that could have been spent on real-world projects such as making a difference in someone's life or contributing to the knowledge base of humanity.  Wouldn't that have been a waste? The jeans thing is minor.  I agree with the "look good, feel good" maxim, but I don't agree with your (the "I AM" position), which seems to be "look good, ARE good".  Fashion is purely a cultural construction, it only has meaning because we choose to give it meaning.  If the "I AM" books had been written in the 1600's, it would have been "Ascended Master wisdom" that no one should be seen in public without a powdered wig! You guys would look funny today. The writings reflect the human culture they were born in, that's all.  Sure, people in authority don't usually wear jeans, but then again some wear army fatigues.  Do you think Jesus (the carpenter)was so concerned about his outer appearance?  Do you think he wore the clothes of royalty in his earthly life?  It's what's inside that counts, man -- spirituality versus the outer, materialistic  trappings of life in the West.  But hey, the "I AM" was invented in America by Americans, so of course it reflects American values and culture.  Mindless Rah Rah flag-waving, emphasis on material wealth, no blacks allowed, etc.  Religion is a cultural phenomenon, and there are always plenty of indications that human society makes it up.  The "I AM" Activity is no exception. Christian, that's just my view.  What I said above is not the main reason I left the "I AM", the more powerful ones are the direct scientific evidence I have against many of the "I AM" claims regarding human and life history.  But we'll save that for another time.  I'm not trying to convince anyone to not believe -- personally I think the I AM has a wonderful message, one that is full of hope and goodness. But it is one that for my own reasons, I suspect may be but human wishful thinking.  If it makes you feel good, more power to you. g'luck.

signed by Dave on 11/21/02 Oh yeah I almost forgot. The Ad Hominem attacks by Christian D. on me, the couple who run this webpage and everyone he feels a need to reply to on this guestbook is an all too obviously diversion from his inability to address the 'activity's' CONTRADICTIONS. Bottom line: Christian D. cannot explain how perfected beings need to use the Law of Forgiveness. I can't say I blame him seeing that the challenge is insurmountable. Regards, Dave

signed by Dave on 11/21/02 '''''ATTENTION EVERYONE''''' After years of decreeing this is what happens: Christian D. letting me know about his location---"(A GREAT area in Chicago) and I dont feel like going to the nasty, south suburbs where you live" This is typical of what the teachings bring and Christian was kind enough to show his true personality and his first love, material property. Thanks so much Christian! You have shown anyone and everyone who comes to this site and reads this guestbook not only how shallow and vicious you are but the stellar result of years of decreeing.

signed by Christian N. D. on 11/21/02 Luc -- You claim that you were involved in the "I Am Movement". I dont know anyone who was "fairly deeply" involved in the Activity who referred to it as the "I Am Movement". If you were truly a student, you would know that the proper name for our set of teachings, beliefs and actions is the "I AM Activity" (Notice the emphasis on the capitalization used in the word "AM"). Your improper reference shows, that you were NOT "fairly deeply" involved in the Activity. When I hear or read 3rd party researchers, etc use the phrase "I Am Movement" I know for a fact, that they have not done any amount of research on this subject, as anyone who has read a fair amount of the Books will realize the reasons why the words "I AM" are capitalized and the reason we refer to this as an Activity and not a 'movement'. Either way, your comments that you were "brainwashed", etc also prove that you have no idea what you are talking about. Everyone is completely FREE to come and go with this Activity, as FREEDOM is one the Hallmarks of the Acended Masters' Teachings about the Laws of our existence and we have NEVER tried to hold anyone in the Activity, as a matter of fact we reject and turn away more people than we accept (Anyone is welcome to read the Books and apply the Teachings to their life to try and create Happiness and to work towards the Asension, but when it comes to actually attending the Classes and going to the Conclaves, one must simply have the true Desire to do so, and to have maintained a clean physical body, observe proper dress code and normal, common sense, formal behavior). If this were a cult like a few people here and there have tried to accuse this Activity of being, then I doubt that we would turn people away or let the people who currently are Students, leave the Activity if their Hearts so led them that way. I will be the first person to say, however, that CUT WAS INDEED a CULT, but just because THEY were a cult, doesnt mean that WE are a cult in any way. We are not, never were, and never will be, associated with CUT or any of the other organizations out there that have tried to claim that they are receiving Teachings, Dictations etc from the Ascended Masters. Luc, you seem like a scientific, "rational" thinking individual. Certainly you have heard of a concept called "The Great Gamble", which explains that because scientists do not have the ability to DISPROVE the existance of a God, or Gods, then you have to assume that the CHANCE that a "God" does exist, right? If you DO NOT choose to take the chance that a God does exist, and you are wrong, what are you going to do when you get to the other side? If you DO take the chance that God exists, and if the case happens to be that a God does NOT exist, and if you "die" and simply cease to exist as an individual and a conciousness, then you have nothing to lose by so "gambling". It would seem to me, to be a better idea to take the assumption that a God DOES exist (I so happen to know that God does exist) and that way, you are going to be rewarded when you get to the other side, if said God does exist, as opposed to taking what consequences there might be for such disbelief. Do you not agree? Regarding wearing jeans, etc: Your idea regarding the concept that wearing jeans was merely an opinion of "fraudulent" Messengers and not a real request of the God-Beings known as the Masters, has no basis, and your error was derived from a lack of knowledge and instruction. While it was true that at one time in the history of American society, jeans were only worn by workmen, the REAL reason for the request of the Students to not wear jeans is based on the concept of Self-Protection. Neither the Masters, nor we, have any desire to infringe upon anyone's free will, but everyone knows that when you "dress down" you are more relaxed and "off guard" than if you are wearing proper, more constructive attire. When people wear jeans, it shows they simply dont care about getting a job done and care more about what others think about them. It also shows that they are more interested in their own comfort and lower nature than they are in doing what needs to be done for that day (performing your JOB, accomplishing constructive tasks, etc). You dont see people of authority wearing jeans do you (except maybe Bill Clinton, but what the hell kind of example was he anyway)? And -- we all saw the fad in the late 90's of wearing jeans to work at professional jobs come around -- and everyone of us who went thru that fad at the workplace knew that productivity and output decreased, and now employers -- Thank God -- are enforcing rules that employees adhere to more constructive Dress Codes...this is for the benefit of the customers as well as the company. See, the Wisdom of the Masters is once again proved!! :)

signed by Luc on 11/20/02 Interesting site.  I was fairly deeply involved with the I Am movement in my formative years (read: when youthful idealism and naivete easily led to brainwashing).  This continued until I went to University and got an education.  It was then that I started noticing on my own the inconsistencies and outright fallacies of the I Am teachings. One of my first revelations was when I noticed in one of the books (Fundamental series? Can't remember) that wearing jeans was an extremely bad thing -- the word "beast" was even used!  Well, who thinks that nowadays?  Just goes to show how much "human" there really is in the "I Am" teachings, if something so subjective (and inconsequential) as fashion sense is passed as objective truth.  Sounds more like the fashion ramblings of an elitist 1930s old-fogey ("in MY day, we NEVER wore jeans, only blue-collar WORKMEN wore jeans...bla bla) than Ascended Master truth. More effectively, a solid background in archaeology and geology made me realize just how much hogwash all that "I Am" talk about Atlantis, the Sun, the interior of the Earth, evolution, bees from Venus, etc. was.  The "I Am" position on these topics is so very easily dismissed by science, as are the similar claims of other "pseudo-sciences" out there.  But it is difficult to realize these "I Am" statements are pseudo-science if you don't have the necessary background knowledge to be able to judge for yourself.  Indeed, the way pseudo-science works is it uses scientific jargon to fool people who know absolutely nothing about the topic into thinking "Jeez -- that sounds impressive, they must know what they're talking about.  I'd better believe it...".   The history of humanity and anthropology of religion shows how humans have always had a need to invent gods -- whether to answer unanswerable questions (what is the meaning of life?), to solidify their hold on power (the Egyptian pharaohs were supposedly the sons of the sun god Ra -- would you want to disobey them?), or to encourage reciprocal altruism in non kin-based societies.  It is clear to those who have studied humanity that god was invented by humans, not vice versa. I can understand the appeal of the I Am, as its promise of Ascension and eternal life is very appealing.  But, like all other religions, it is a human creation, the product of our evolved frontal brain lobes which are responsible for abstract thinking.  In 3000 years, its temples will also be buried and forgotten, as are the ones we excavate today from gods of the past, which were just as powerful and omnipotent in their time....

signed by Christian N. D. on 11/20/02 Oh yes, Dave, in your post below, you ALSO FORGOT to mention that I TOLD YOU I would respond to your email AFTER I GOT DONE MOVING which I just finished recently. In case you havent figured it out yet, I have a career and a lifestyle that I enjoy living and I am busy, and you are not that important to me. Sorry. Regarding the EVIDENCE that I requested, I want to make sure you are TELLING THE TRUTH in your claim that you live in the Chicago area. Anyone can look at a map and pick out a suburb or a neighborhood and just say that you live there. And since you told me you live in Oak Lawn, I dont know that area and therefore hard for me to ask you to verify a fact about that locality. And quite frankly I dont feel like going down there either, I live in Lincoln Park ( A GREAT area in Chicago) and I dont feel like going to the nasty, south suburbs where you live.

signed by Christian N. D. on 11/20/02 Dave, You conveniently seem to forget, that I have told you before, that I have HAPPINESS, and that the outer proof of the success of my decrees, is MINOR compared to the Happiness and spiritual fulfillment that I have received from over 12 years of decreeing for "non-material" conditions to manifest in my life, and of making effort toward the Ascension. I have never lied to you, or anybody in the Activity for that matter. I know its hard for you to believe, but your non-belief in the Truth is the LAST thing on my mind, trust me, and might I add, easily forgettable. Im too busy, doing things that make me happy. I promised you I will go, one by one and prove where you are wrong on the contradictions, and that is a promise I will keep. I can tell you this first tho, I would say that 90% of the so-called contradictions, ARE NOT EVEN CONTRADICTIONS!!!! What you have written up, were instead, your SUBJECTIVE OPINION and INTERPRETATION on what had been written or said in those particular quotes. So, whether you like it or not, I will continue to be an I AM Student, I will continue to give the Decrees, I will continue to go to the Classes, and I will continue to Stand up for the Light. Well, that's that!!

signed by Dave on 11/18/02 How could I forget the blatant lie from Christian D.? He said he was going through his internet favorites and just happened upon this link and wanted to see what it was! LMAO I can't even give you the benefit of the doubt on that one. Not after the 'I've been busy decreeing' line! Do you decree with that mouth of deceit? ed. Hi Dave Yes, Christian D. continues his verbal diarrhea, with all the nonsense about how his personal life is more than enough proof that the Ballards are right and Jesus was wrong. Let me clarify that not once has Christian D. tried to defend the inconsistencies that flowed from the Ballard mouths. Nor has Christian D. explained why no one has attained invinvcible health, weatlh, or happiness, as promised by the Ballards with the use of the Violet Flame. And Christian's life experience remains a narrow and insular affair, as he has never met anyone who has struggled with or had a marriage break up due to the Ballard lies. Why would he go out of his way to know this when it would seriously challenge his flimsy blind faith? Christian D., we still have our $10,000, and that says more than ten year's worth of your gobble de gook.

signed by Dave on 11/17/02 Christian D. does nothing but talk, and to that extent he fails miserably as well. We had an email exchange going in which he demanded proof of where I lived. I gave him more than enough evidence of this and then his emails stopped abruptly. I responded with 3 follow-up emails that he ignored completely. His demands of my personal info. just underscore how much damage this activity has done to his brain. Everything is a big 'secret espionage' aka Guy Ballard. His reply that he was 'too busy decreeing' smacks of integrity at best and at worst it is insulting. C.D. you are NOT living in reality. Keep trying to force perfection on yourself to the extent that you can tolerate the effort, but try to give your loved ones a break. They suffer greatly from this magical superstitous nonsense the most. Dave Oh yeah. Your directly proportional relationship with spirtitual advancement and money is beyond pathetic, it's now just sad. Hopefully your Car, Job, Lake View, & bank account somehow fills that huge spiritual void within you.

signed by Christian N. D. on 11/16/02 One more thing -- To anyone who simply wishes to communicate to me my email address is listed in this link right above, many had emailed me before thanking me for standing up for the Light however my email address has changed and this is the new address up above.

signed by Christian N. D. on 11/16/02 Well, I forgot all about this website and it's nonsense, and quite frankly I also forgot about you, Dave, and how I was going to respond to your emails and prove you wrong. I have been too busy decreeing, happily living my life  and moving into my beutiful Chicago lakefront apartment that I had been decreeing for and that finally manifested. I found this site again when going thru the history on my system and wondered what the web address was, decided to take a look and realized what it was, and to my chagrin I see below, Dave is attacking me, based on the concept that I have forgotten to respond to him to prove him wrong. Dave, I will respond to you shortly and prove to you, WHERE you are wrong and also, WHY you are wrong. Once again I stand by my personal life experience that these teachings are 100% VALID, and that applying the teachings to one's life WILL produce absolutely positive results. The more I read on this site, the more discrepencies and nonsense I find, both in Chris Kennard's ideas as well as Gerald Bryant's revenge-motivated accusations. Not only does Chris Kennard NOT respect one's privacy (by disclosing my name when I simply did not want the general Internet to know my name) but he also attacks the values of everyone who simply disagrees with him even based on principle. Chris does not even take an objective, scientific approach to analyzing the postings on here, and that leads me to conclude that he does not take the same approach to the Teachings of the Ascended Masters, no matter waht he claims to the contrary. I feel that Chris Kennard's subjective approach to the Teachings and the entries in this guestbook reveal his mentality. And some of the points that Chris brings up are so rediculous that they arent even worth addressing. I also find humor in the fact that Chris Kennard threatened to censor my postings. When he started making threats like that it just helped reveal that I am a threat to his agenda. To everyone who happens to stumble upon this website and Chris Kennard's warped persecution of people who have differing ideas of the Universe, do yourself a favor and just move on. It's not worth wasting your time and breath trying to argue with people who have no reasoning ability or who have an axe to grind based on personal negative experiences (By the way, personal experiences do NOT necesarily indict a whole religious belief). To those who are sincere, you know what the Truth is and if I were you I would go on happily living that Truth to the best of your ability. Christian N. D.

signed by Normand Dionne on 11/13/02 Yo people! Glad to learn that not a single person has reached any state of significant beingness using this "activity". I sure havent' God bless.

signed by warren on 11/11/02 I was born into the 1 am activity. In fact, tonight just reading this site, my wife pointed out guy ballard's middle name is the same as mine. (the one I go by) I can only say that in the 13 years of going to the classes, I only saw what I now know to be occult activity, and after years of drugs and other messes I have been truly set free by the Truth, Jesus Christ.

signed by Rich Love on 11/1/02 You are doing yourself an injustice by your offer of 10,000 The only way that anyone can prove or disprove the validity of the "I Am" teachings is the same for everyone. Acording to the book Unvailed Misteries, I think it is on page 14 "The first step for anyone on the path is to take 15 minutes in the morning and 15 minutes in the evening" to "Be still and know" "Christ In You the Hope of Glory!" Col.1:27 After you have done this, include a time of communion in mid day. In the words of The Count De St. Germain, "Each individual carries his own heaven or hell with him every moment, for these are but the results of mental and emotional states which the individual has created, because of his own attitude. There is no other cause for them." Thank you for the opportunity to state what I believe is the one thing that is needed most. Sincerely I Am Rich Love ed. You are only telling part of the story Rich Love. You quote the first of the Ballard books which advises one only need apply themselves for half an hour a day as the first step to realizing all the material and immaterial riches the Ballards promise. You overlook that the Ballards went on for many years adding addendums and conditions and volumes of decrees that one must follow to have their desires come true. You also overlook that the Ballards never achieved the health, wealth, or harmony in their lives they preached so emphatically everyone else could. The Ballard teachings just cannot be taken literally. The inistructions in Unveiled Mysteries were simple and fairly easy to follow. As the Ballards went on, they had to keep making up excuses and clouding the teachings in a sea of ambiguities to cover up the fact that their earlier KISS principle just didn't deliver the goods. Considering there weree a lot of students in the early days who left the movement, I think any reasonable person can only assume Ballard advice didn't work for them either.

signed by Dave on 10/31/02 Well another IAMer turned out to be all talk and no action. Christian D. & I were exchanging emails and he was ready to reply to my posted inconsistencies when he suddenly stopped returning my emails. There is no way around it. You either ignore the fraud and continue decreeing for nothing or you stand up for the light and respond to these allegations. Do you really want to ignore reality because the alternative is too painful? Or embarassing?? ed. Hi Dave, yes those who come here to criticise are certainly developing a pattern; which goes like this- Come and vent their highly emotive 'feelings' for why the I AM is the only really truly madly deeply logical path to God; and why anyone like us who challenge the Ballards just don't have our heads in the right space, or are just vicious people. And when these people are asked to level headedly show evidence of why the Ballards are emphatically right and the rest of the world is wrong, these fanatics can only produce emotive outbursts of personal derogatory attack against us. MAY I REMIND ALL READING THIS, THAT THERE IS A SERIOUS $10,000 UP FOR GRABS FOR ANYONE WHO CAN PROVE AN I AM STUDENT HAS ATTAINED ANY OF THE UNEQUIVOCAL MIRACLES PROMISED BY THE BALLARDS. LET ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CRITICISE THE CONTENTS OF THIS SITE EXPRESS THEIR CRITICISM MOST EFFECTIVELY BY CLAIMING THE $10,000. Until an I AM supporter claims this money , then any criticism of our site rings very hollow indeed. Christian Kinnard